EvolutionFM Transcript: The Science of BioGeometry and Sacred Power Sites (Doreya Karim)

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Doreya Karim shares the story of BioGeometry, a design science developed by her father, Dr. Ibrahim Karim to understand and apply the life-force energies behind sacred sites. She explains how shapes and proportions can influence the human energy system creating balance and harmony in homes, cities, and even technology. From ancient methods of detecting healing locations to modern projects in Switzerland that eased health issues around cell towers, Doreya highlights how this work bridges tradition and science.

At its core, BioGeometry is about reintroducing centering energy into environments that modern life has disrupted. Her examples range from agriculture and architecture to everyday objects like pendants and phone protectors, showing how subtle design can have practical effects. What begins as a study of sacred spaces becomes a broader vision for humanizing technology and restoring balance to the way we live and this journey is only just beginning to unfold.

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Scott Britton (00:02.297)

Hey, Doreya, how are you?

Doreya Karim (00:04.108)

I'm fine, thank you. How are you doing?

Scott Britton (00:06.541)

I'm great. I'm excited to talk about the world of biogeometry, which is something that, yeah, probably six months I had never heard of, you know, I've, I'd read a lot on sacred sites and, know, different things that are kind of tangentially related. But, what we're about to talk about was relatively new for me. And so maybe, maybe to frame things up, what is biogeometry?

Doreya Karim (00:11.534)

Thank you. Bye.

Doreya Karim (00:35.886)

I mean, one way to begin to define it is to just look at the word itself and kind of the roots of the word. So bio being life, geo-earth and metry measurement. So biogeometry really deals with the life force measurement of the earth. So that word, to explain the background, you mentioned sacred sites. So in a nutshell, the birth of biogeometry came from the founder, my father, Dr. Kareem, unlocked

the energy code behind sacred sites. So being an architect by profession, he was looking at the world of subtle energy and not just an architect, but also a town planner. And he understood one of the things he wanted to do is bring in subtle energy into architecture. And there is different types. So for example, there is architecture that will involve things such as

Of course, you Feng Shui, there's also placements of, know, people can talk about how specific colors affect us architecturally. But he was really interested in sacred sites because sacred sites are the locations that we, the term that we use for what they do for the subtle energy system is that they're centering. Centering meaning that if we can unlock the

how we can reproduce the energy that we find in sacred sites into our home, then we can actually, we can create homes that are beneficial for all the people living in them, regardless of what's going on in their energy system. So we're not, we don't have to diagnose, we can just make use of this amazing energy quality and what it does to our energy system.

Scott Britton (02:26.575)

Well, very exciting. mean, who wouldn't want to live on a sacred site? Or at least the quality of it? Can we can we talk about a little bit like, why do we know why those sites seem to have particularly helpful, supportive fields?

Doreya Karim (02:44.268)

I mean, so specifically in a lot of these sites, we find underground water crossings in specific angles with specific depths from each other. And more importantly, when we look at these sites, we can look at how they used to be detected. there's, I mean, there's a few aspects here. So one of them is through observation, but literally these sites were chosen because

They showed signs of being beneficial for health and plant growth and life. So for example, for some of these, they would do things such as look at the rate of fermentation of milk. Or in sacred sites, you also have places where they're migratory locations, places where animals would go when they were sick. So these were healing locations. But more than that, for a lot of these places, they were also related to either detection

using subtle energy methods. in, for example, there's different stories for how different sites are detected. when in traveling to see some of these sites, some of them are, you know, written in history and famous in Switzerland, there's the Grossmünster church, that location was famous because there was a stag being chased. And I'm not gonna say the name of

of who was chasing the stag because it's an important historical figure whose name I forgot right now. But he was chasing the stag across Europe and the stag chose this location to just stop and rest and that's where he stood. And instead of killing the stag, they chose this location to build the church. There's also a story related to that same church where two martyres were beheaded.

And the story says that they picked up their heads, ran towards the church, it's embedded on the church door, ran towards the church, and that's where they fell. So there's other stories as well. An interesting one, you'll see some of them came up through detection, some of them came up through dreams, or specifically following some animals. A neat one next to a class I was teaching was the location of a castle. And I remember we went down and you found this.

Doreya Karim (05:11.054)

This castle was built around this huge tree that still stood. And the story goes that they were told to place gold in a cart and allow, I don't know if it was a donkey or a horse, to roam. And wherever they rested would be the site of building that castle. And gold itself, so I talked about unlocking the energy quality of sacred power spots. So gold is one of the energy qualities that we look for. So in By Geometry, we have a system.

where we detect energies based or we classify them based on their colors, their resonant colors, and gold is one of those. And so they were told to place gold and wherever the horse or the donkey would rest, that's where they would build the castle. So that was a resonant connection with that gold energy quality. And so these are the places that have been known for healing, for oracles, they were also used for burials, for deaths.

And when we look at ancient, ancient men and rituals and the purpose of these rituals, actually the purpose of many of the rituals we even have in modern day spiritual practices and religions is to connect with the sacred energy quality. So that's what became really interesting is that once you detected it in a sacred site, you could start looking at, okay, well, where else am I finding it? And we find that you find it in the human body. You find it in different shapes. You find it, a lot of people talk about

frequencies now and healing with frequencies. frequency is a little bit, when we talk about energy, we say qualitative. think frequency isn't the whole picture because it's a shape of a wave and we have to look at both the frequency but also the amplitude. But frequency is also one example where we can create or have frequencies that have this centering energy quality. And so this, and then like I said in shapes, that's what opened up a design language.

Scott Britton (07:11.587)

And got it. And so the core for you guys is the focus on shape, right? There's people out there. They're doing sound. There's people out there that are doing color. There's people out there that are, I don't know, putting their hands around you, right? All these, all these different things. But I think my, my understanding is you guys are really focused on how shape specifically affects the subtle energy field.

Doreya Karim (07:37.87)

I mean, so we do have, so there is one track related to sound that was actually my husband, he's a composer. And so with my father, they did a track that specifically was made to resonate with the Power Spot Sirius. with that, so with that we have done, we have worked with music as well as

developed instruments using, so developed instruments with a colleague that are based on bi-geometry. So they're shaped specifically using bi-geometry principles. So even a guitar, for example, is using bi-geometry principles. But one of the interesting also things that we've done is it's actually called the silent sound CD. And what it is, is looking at the effect of recording a balanced or centered location and then

playing that silent recording in another location and seeing the effect. So this is actually a really neat trick for anybody listening because I mean, we do offer lots of solutions, we offer different things, but this is a neat trick that anybody can do. If you have, mean, ideally for us from a by geometry perspective, it's a sacred power spot because specifically for us, a sacred power spot is a location.

I mean, sometimes people talk about sacred sites and they say, the energy in these sacred sites is too strong, don't sleep in them or something like that, then that for us doesn't qualify as a sacred site. Sacred sites are ones that energy, you want to be exposed to it as much as possible. So if you're going to any of these sites and you are sensitive to feel the locations where you can feel a little bit of a shift in your energy system, just take out your phone and record.

that site, record the area that you're in, record where you're standing. Or if you just go out in nature and go out, you're somebody who spends a lot of time out in nature, start observing a little bit and start looking for these areas that really feel like they have so much growth and life and you feel really good in there. And also just start recording these. And then if you're doing some kind of meditation or you feel like you're sitting at home and you're running low on energy, then you can actually play that trap.

Scott Britton (11:10.199)

So, Dariah, you know, I think it seems like this idea that shape can impact the subtle energy field and environment has pretty much been unacknowledged or ignored by our modern way of living. What are the implications of this? And how what are the things that we can start to do to ultimately live in a more harmonious and supportive environment.

Doreya Karim (11:44.558)

So mean, we were just talking about, yeah, so shape being the cornerstone of by geometry and shape is, mean, I gave some examples of working with sound, but one of the reasons that we work with shape is because shaping the environment or designing the environment is one of the easiest ways to have a permanent effect. So yes, you can work with the smell.

for example, but that's going to be difficult. You're always going to have to be infusing the smell. I mean, this is also something we've done consultations where we've shaped essential oil diffusers for companies. But again, it's something that's more difficult to be constantly having in your field. again, with sound, sound works really well, but again, a little bit difficult to always have constantly in your field. with shapes and proportions,

And I don't know if you've heard the term frozen music, know, so geometry is frozen music. So I think it was Hans Kaiser who referred to it that way. Where we begin to understand when we understand geometry is frozen music, we begin to understand the implications that shapes and proportions there, they have a vibratory nature and the proportions and shapes that we work with exist in the human body as well.

And so there's a certain resonance that occurs whenever you use these centering proportions and shapes and you get these balanced environments. So the implications of not being aware of this, I mean, I'll talk about our most, our most famous, research project and the most famous research project that we had was, actually in Switzerland.

I'd say the most internationally known one. And this happened in Switzerland. So my father, who I had mentioned is the founder, he graduated from ETH, which is the technical school in Zurich. And in Switzerland, there was a town where they installed a cell tower and a lot of health issues started popping up. And the residents were very much...

Doreya Karim (14:04.446)

angry about this and basically threatening to take down the tower unless somebody comes up with a solution. So being that my father had graduated from, that's where he got his PhD, so he knew, a few people knew of his work, and so they asked him if we can come and install some shapes on the cell towers over there. So it was more than, I mean, I'll add that the biometry solution was

looking at more than just the cell towers, it was what we would say more of an environmental solution. So there were shapes in the cell towers and then a few shapes as well installed in some homes and around nearby. But basically within a week, the residents, had a press conference and the residents said, we're fine, we accept this as a solution. And...

years later as well, so there was an independent study conducted by the Building Biology Institute there, who showed the difference that biogeometry did in the quality of life of these residents. Now, there was a few things that were really interesting. So of course, some people came out and said, well, this is a placebo effect. So that was really easily

answered by the fact that a lot of the changes showed within in the ecology and with the animals. So one of the problems that they were dealing with a lot was related to to their cows and having their cows having stillbirths and other issues which were resolved. And, and so actually that was followed by a TED talk in Cairo, a TEDx talk in Cairo, where it was titled Why is the cow smiling?

where Dr. Kareem said, you know, if it wasn't for the cows, would have, people would have just said this is a placebo effect. But the really interesting thing in the study is that there was two interesting aspects. So one, at first the residents were complaining of a lot of their physical symptoms. So when they first said that they needed a solution, it was related to a lot of physical symptoms that were coming up. Things like headaches, you know, back pain.

Doreya Karim (16:17.454)

just a whole different range of symptoms. mean, for those interested to see the actual, all of the symptoms I'm talking about, they can go on the website and look at research. And then they came in and they said, okay, but more than these physical symptoms, there's a lot of mental symptoms that we're also complaining about. More agitation, more fighting. And this was also...

from a biogeometry perspective, it's important to note that where the tower was installed was in the church. So from a biogeometry perspective and from their perspective as well, this actually also created a little bit of a break in the community because the church was the heart of the community. after the solution was installed, now the really interesting part is that there was a study where basically you see the summary of the study.

And it talks about all of the, how many residents had symptoms and how many residents were symptoms free before the bi geometry solution and after the bi geometry solution. Now, the most notable thing is that after the bi geometry solution, the majority of residents were symptom free. Now this is interesting because it's very unlikely that you're going to meet anybody who really tells you today, I'm symptom free. When we talk about things like sleep, we're going to talk about things like

Scott Britton (17:39.077)

Seriously.

Doreya Karim (17:40.844)

you know, anxiousness, stress. So this became basically, we showed it as a quality of life solution. And so going into a lot of when we're presenting by geometry, a lot of times and people want to know, great, so what do you bring to the table? You know, we show them that this should be the reality. We believe that by bringing in that subtle energy dimension where where we acknowledge that the human being is multi dimensional.

and we acknowledge that we can use, I mean, not just by geometry focuses on shapes, but through what we call the physics of quality, we can understand that shapes are in resonance with colors, with sounds. So we can understand kind of the resonance between all of our sensory experiences. And if you bring that into your environment, then we believe that your normal can be on symptom-free.

Scott Britton (18:36.729)

Well, I think our normal is quite unnatural at this point. And I think, yeah, we've kind of accepted a lot of these suboptimal ways of experiencing life. I think what's so interesting to me about the bio biogeometry solutions and I have a home kid at my house. I have an L9 dependent is that when I, when I first kind of got in touch with this idea that like, maybe our structures and the way we're living isn't

ideal, you think of maybe people have seen these like these little like hobbit homes, right? Where it's like a house built until the side of a hill. And, you know, it just seems like so far away from what modern existence is like, and the elegance of just a small shapes, putting them within your home or putting them on a cell tower. And that kind of diffusing the negative impacts is just really, really awesome.

Doreya Karim (19:37.89)

I mean, I think a big premise of by geometry is we believe there's a term that we use, which is called humanizing modern technology. And so one of the things that we talk about a lot. So we talk about what, I mean, a lot of times people want to know, how did we get here? You know, how did we get to here and whatever, you know, you're talking about is here, but kind of a little bit of this mess that we're in right now.

Not to say that it's all bad. And this is where from the by geometry perspective, we look at the shift from right brain to left brain. And we look at this is important as well, because a lot of times, mean, right before jumping on the show, we talked about tapping into ancient knowledge and how this is something that now people are really drawn to. And what we try to explain to the first step, because we actually get a lot of people as well.

before more and more now is by Geometry is becoming more popular, but they come to Egypt when they're looking at ancient sites. And they will stop by our office and sometimes we'll do kind of an introductory lecture. And one of the first things that we tell them is we say, so if you're gonna be going to these sites and you're going to really unlock the secrets of ancient knowledge, it's important to understand that

you think of ancient man as a completely different species. So ancient man's perception was right in the right brain. So right brain, there's a really good actually, Ted talk, I think it's a book also, where it's a neuroscientist and she, it's called the stroke of insight, but she has a stroke and her perception shifts completely into the right brain.

And then you can see her describing how she couldn't see the boundary between herself and the environment, how she couldn't do a lot of the left brain tasks, like even just make a phone call. So that when we see how ancient man was really in the right brain, the way that we describe it from a bi geometry perspective is that the types of rituals and the way ancient man was living was

Doreya Karim (21:50.572)

that he was a spokesman of the earth or following the naturally following natural laws. So think a little bit more like animals, for example, or if we look at kind of birds and how they build their nests. And then we talk about, we see that shift as we switch slowly into left brain. And you can see that switch. mean, just things like when we talk about temple sciences, for example.

So temple sciences already, when we're talking about ancient Egypt and Greek history, that term temple sciences already begins to imply how much that, what we say that quantitative and qualitative worldview were tied together. And then slowly we find a shift into modern day man. And this makes sense because if we look at what's happening with ancient men,

they were slowly moving towards what was giving more interest or what was giving more growth was the practical application of things such as number, the practical application of building and growing into this left brain world that we're in. And then slowly, right now we're finding a shift back into, as we've shifted into the left brain, we're finding a shift back or interest more in what we would say the right brain view.

or really trying to merge this modern man to be able to have a foot in both worlds. And that's a little bit as well, the work of bi geometry, because what we want to be able to do is use the center in quality to help bring balance into our daily life, which a lot of the stress that we have comes from left brain perception.

And then a lot of the reasons going back to ancient knowledge, one of the things that by geometry does is we've had to describe things through what we call the physics of quality, which allows us to be able to tap into these, this vibrational worldview that cannot be tapped into the way ancient man used to tap into, because there is a chance that they could even see these energies. The way that they were working with them is completely different. And then

Doreya Karim (24:10.006)

As well now, what we want to be able to do again through the physics of quality is when we begin to be able to have a language where we classify energy quality. So like I said, we use a color scale, but that color scale can apply to, once you learn how to measure, that color scale can be applied to any type of other vibrational approach. So then a lot of the traditions, what happens is a lot of the traditions, the building traditions,

that existed for many years didn't have or ancient building traditions didn't have the same problems that we have today. They didn't have the problem of electromagnetic fields or the interaction with geopathic stress, the way that they're interacting together and showing up today. And so through this physics of quality, when we begin to understand everything through a vibrational language, we can actually modernize these schools as well to have solutions for these problems.

Scott Britton (25:07.247)

couple things come up for me. The first is, is, you know, when we talk about having access to the right brain, and there's lots of experiences where people go to a sacred site, and they get some download, or they go into a church, and then, you know, they're able to connect with a higher power. Is that part of what kind of implementing bio geometry principles in our homes makes us makes it easier for us to access that stuff?

Doreya Karim (25:38.222)

Yes, I believe so. A lot of times it's hard. Whenever we're accessing information, it can be hard to know the source of this information that we're accessing. So sometimes you're not sure if it's from within the subconscious or if it's coming from a higher source. But what happens is in these sacred sites, they were used specifically for these, like I said, I mean, I had mentioned rituals and oracles. Now there's,

Two parts for this. One, there's an energy quality. I mentioned gold, but there's an energy quality that we refer to as horizontal negative green. That energy quality increases a lot in your energy system whenever you're doing any kind of spiritual practice or prayer. And it's naturally found in sacred power spots. So it helps create that connection. And then once you have that connection, because you're in a sacred power spot, then that connection becomes

naturally centered. So it helps guide you to getting this divine wisdom versus, like I said, sometimes we could end up with downloads or accessing areas that may not even be beneficial for our energy system. So the Sacred Power Spot provides protection as well as a place for communication.

Scott Britton (26:58.457)

Now you mentioned, you mentioned kind of like our needs being different than the needs of the ancients. One of the questions I have is like, okay, you guys had this great study in Switzerland, people were happy. It doesn't seem like a cell phone company would be that pissed if you just put a bunch of shapes on their towers and it made things better. Like it's not, it's not cutting off our access to technology, which I think is how a lot of people think about protecting themselves.

you know, living in living in some place that's not near a city or Yeah, I mean, basically relocating. And so why? Why are we not seeing a greater embrace of what you're talking about?

Doreya Karim (27:43.502)

So there's a few reasons. So one, you look at this project, this was maybe 20 years ago when it first started. It was repeated in another town, Hishberg. And at that time, the attack on the effects of electromagnetic radiation was not the way that it existed today. So the cell phone companies themselves weren't dealing with the same attack.

We had at that time in Swisscom, one of the people working there, even said, you know, I wasn't aware of electrosensitivity, but after seeing the work and the effect of these people, I believe in it now that it exists, that it's something that can be addressed. But at the same time, we're kind of in the middle where there's a lot of people will still not accept the solution of biogeometry.

versus removing the cell phones completely, right? Or removing the towers completely. know, somebody's gonna come tell you, well, do you have a study that's, know, that do you have the effect that it's been working for a hundred years, right? I mean, I just mentioned 20 years, but you have the hundred year study. And then more and more, what's happening now is there's a lot more research coming out with all of the different effects of electromagnetic radiation. And so,

people want to see that you've specifically tested this and you've specifically tested that. And we have really good research. mean, not just Hemberg and Hinchburg, but we also have one of our colleagues who was one of the first people, his name is Dr. Sohvi, who was one of his first people who did his PhD in biogeometry. He did a study with Wi-Fi routers and showed the effect that being near these Wi-Fi routers had on both inflammation in the body and melatonin. This was using mice.

And then he showed with bi geometry shapes that they mitigated the effects of both the melatonin, the lower melatonin production, as well as the inflammation with the mice. We also had another architecture student who had as well built different types of cages for mice and looked at the effects next to the Wi-Fi router and the effects with the

Doreya Karim (30:09.002)

house designed with bi-geometry. Again, it was like a model house for a mouse and found that we were able to remove the stressful effects of Wi-Fi radiation, as well as the stressful effects of Wi-Fi radiation, as well as the health effects that the mice were facing. I think a lot of like, I think we're in the middle, right? So there's people, we're in the middle where there's a camp that's going

Well, that can't be true that you can have a shape on a cell phone, that you can place a shape on a tower and that can have an effect. And then there's another camp that's really against just the proliferation of radiation. And they might not be so happy as well with bi geometry being the final solution versus I would say slowing down. I don't think you could stop the exposure to radiation at this point, but slowing it down.

But even, I mean, what by geometry is coming in and we're saying, it's not really something that we can turn back from at this point when we look at modern environments. know more and more, I mean, you were saying people are building off-grid homes and creating these solutions. And those are great as well. mean, those are, you can be, you know, rather than shielding, if you're able to live kind of off-grid and not...

and be more connected to nature versus your focus or your residence being more disconnected. That's great. But by geometry, it really offers a solution to, like we talk about the forming process in nature. What it does is for anything that you're doing, it doesn't have to be a product of modern technology. I have a son now, he's two years old. And when he was born, I applied the principles into toys for kids.

And so you can really apply it into what we call the forming process in nature is that you suddenly, can bring it into the production line of whether it's design or we've worked with being able to have in Canada, we worked five years providing a solution for antibiotic free chicken. We've worked for providing agricultural solutions. So it really can be part of any type of anybody who's putting anything out in the world.

Doreya Karim (32:30.348)

what we call, if you begin to understand the forming process in nature, which is looking at everything's effect multidimensionally on the human energy system.

Scott Britton (32:41.733)

Well, I think one of the challenges is that at least a lot of people would say we don't have a good way to measure the human energy system. So how do you know we just get the we just get the kind of physical symptoms that are downstream of a lot of that. And I'm

Doreya Karim (32:57.368)

So, I mean, there's a few things. So one, at the end of the day, you measure based on the effect on the human being. I mean, that's one of the ways, like you said, I mean, that's going back to the physical symptoms, but a lot of times because people, we, so in bi geometry, we do use, when we teach people how to measure energy, we do use, the testing is based on physical retesthesia. It's a school, French school of retesthesia.

which is using pendulum instruments. Now there's been advancements in that, but basically it's very similar to if anybody is kind of aware of or has ever seen the image of a water dowser. What a water dowser does is he has an instrument in his hand that allows him to see the sensitivity to whatever, once he's entered into resonance to what he's measuring. Now those instruments,

know, if somebody's skeptical, are definitely going to push you in the other direction and say, well, there you go, look at what they're using to measure. So those instruments are not how we do the research and the testing. If we want to show the effects, so we show the effects based on the effects on the human body. So that could include, like you said, testing physical symptoms. I mean, that's what involved in Hamburg and Hinchburg. But the main point there

is you can have scientific studies with biogeometry. But I mean, for us, the pendulum is the quick tool in order to reach the solution, and then you can have the testing. So biogeometry was actually part of, they did a national study on solutions for hepatitis C at one of the universities here, and they were including all the possible interventions, whether alternative,

or the medications that were available. And they invited by geometry to be part of the study. I say invited because technically with by geometry, there's shapes that we're wearing on the body. So it's not really something that you can say needs to be medically approved. we went into the study and in the preliminary phase of the study, by geometry normalized 90 % of the liver enzymes.

Doreya Karim (35:22.126)

For those who were able to afford testing for viral clearance, more than 90 % of those who tested showed viral clearance. So from the bi-geometry group. Now that study was discontinued, but what ended up happening is once these results came up, the dean of the university actually went out on national television and he said the results and he actually said,

there's something here and we need to study it because we're seeing the effects and we're seeing the results. that's actually how, so I think that's also important for, to note is that none of the products that we offer, Bi geometry never set out to be a company that sells products. The reason that the, so the reason that the pendants came out was actually from that study going out on national television. And the reason that the home kit came out was actually from the published study of Hamburg and Hitchburg, which I mentioned.

People were showing up, people were showing up, but after that, after the Dean went on TV, there was hundreds of people showing up at the office asking for a product which we didn't have. So now to go back to how it can be tested. So it can be tested. It can be tested on the human body. Now, depending on how open you are to different types of effects. So we also worked, for example, with

Dr. Imoto. So when we talk about different types of testing. So with Dr. Imoto, if you're familiar with his work, he's the one who really showed that intention can affect water. And so he would have, and there was all these different experiments that came out of his work where people would have like even rice and say like write like something negative on a bottle and then something positive and see the effects of growth.

But basically, he showed that our intention can affect water and he would show it through water crystal images. And whenever somebody had a positive intention or a positive intention, you would see these beautifully formed water crystals. Whenever it was a negative intention, you wouldn't see these structures forming. And so we actually did a study with the cube that you're mentioning having in the space. We did a study with him.

Doreya Karim (37:49.934)

And we showed that by having the cube in the space, you were getting the same structured water crystals that were in the environment whenever that you were getting the same structured water crystals whenever somebody was giving a positive intention or a positive emotion.

Scott Britton (38:06.479)

Wow, that's incredible. You know, one of the questions I had, and for those that are listening, I'm kind of holding my phone up here on YouTube with the pendant that's on the back of the phone that's supposed to mitigate the harmful radiation or create a center in quality. How did you guys come up with these shapes? Because when I look at this, I'm like, hmm, this kind of looks like some type of like hieroglyph or something.

Yeah, I'm just curious, how did you guys come up with these different know that these ones were the ones that were creating center and qualities?

Doreya Karim (38:44.462)

So these are basically what we call biosignatures, the shapes. I had mentioned that we group different energies based on their resonant color qualities. And so you can actually begin, if somebody's familiar, for example, with Chinese medicine, if we look at the meridians,

They're just lines that follow the shape of the human body. So in the same way that the human body has lines of energy, when looking at by geometry as a science of shape, so Dr. Krim started looking at different organs and saying, okay, so if we take the whole body as a shape and has these multiple lines of energy running through it, could the same exist for every single organ? Could it have multiple energy lines running through it? And so he started tracing

the energy lines related to these organs and using design principles to adjust them so that they all have BG3, so that they're all bringing that centering quality. And basically when you bring them into the energy field of the body, there's a resonance that occurs because that's an energy flow that exists in your body and it begins to correct and balance it. And so with these shapes,

We can detect the imbalances that happen in the body whenever you're bringing your cell phone close to your body, and then start finding the shapes that will bring it back into balance. But one of the things for people to... So we have these instruments that basically you will... To get to measure every color, you turn an angle. Again, they're pendulum instruments, but you turn an angle and every angle gives you...

different color. You can adjust a different color quality in the body. But one of the things to understand when we're talking about why biogeometry helps with the effect of modern technology is there's an energy quality, it's called vertical negative green, that doesn't naturally exist in the body when it's in a healthy state, even though the body has its own electromagnetism, but exists in all man-made electricity and electro

Doreya Karim (41:09.004)

magnetic exposure. So a biotometry does what the shapes do when we add it is by using the center and quality, you can no longer detect this vertical negative green. So your body can no longer detect it. So we remove that state of stress that it's in. And then, I mean, you were asking about how we can go and talk about the human being being multi-dimensional and how we can measure that and just, you know, going back to that.

I'll also add, I mean, we've also had studies, there was one thesis for creating related to depression and that was actually measuring serotonin levels as well with by geometry shapes, basically having the same results as better or the same results than the main medications that they were using for low serotonin. I know this is just what's not all depression is related to serotonin, but it's an example of.

of neurotransmitters coming back into balance, even though it's one of them. But to go back, I don't know how deep your listeners kind of want to go into the rabbit hole, but the idea of being able to detect, a lot of people think, for example, okay, so if I'm going to start measuring multidimensional energy, how, you know, it...

Scott Britton (42:16.645)

Let's go into the rabbit hole. Why not?

Doreya Karim (42:31.586)

These terms sound like I'm just throwing them out. But if you understand where to look, then you can understand how to measure these. So when we talk about a design principle, first of all, BG3 is at the center of a circle. And then if we look at that, we begin to understand that the center of a circle actually doesn't exist on our physical plane. If I was to draw a circle and then tell you to pinpoint the center,

As soon as you pinpointed the center, we'd be detecting another center within the center. So this already begins to clue you in into that wormhole effect or that multi-dimensional nature of the centering quality. Now, once you begin to be able to use, to detect energy qualities, it can be as simple as if we draw a line, just a physical line.

We begin to find that we can actually find that center and quality existing a little bit before the start of the line. And that begins to tell us, okay, and then there's a space between that center and quality and where the physical line starts. And in that space, you can also detect energy qualities. And we can find the shapes that are in resonance with that empty space before.

the physical line starts to form. So that starts giving you a clue as to how we can say that we are detecting or measuring the body in a multi-dimensional way because we have access to, again, what I refer to as that forming process to find the shapes that are in resonance with those levels.

Scott Britton (44:24.143)

Very interesting. One of the things I think maybe people, a lot of people have heard of in this world of shapes having an impact on our field and our consciousness and all these things is sacred geometry. How does what you guys are doing intersect or map to that?

Doreya Karim (44:46.434)

I mean, sacred geometry, so one of the things that sacred geometry, a premise of sacred geometry is it begins to show you that there's a blueprint upon which our physical world is formed. And it also begins to show you that there's specific, that the laws of nature can be brought down to specific numbers and patterns and ratios. And so biogeometry follows the very same premise.

And a lot of times what we do find, so the golden ratio, so the most common ratio in sacred geometry, actually we, so in biogeometry we have multiple ratios, but the golden ratio is refer, it goes back to the number 16 from a biogeometry perspective. So 10 to 16 or one to 1.6 for example. And so that's one of the first numbers or ratios that produces this energy quality that we have, that we use in sacred architecture.

the differences in biodeametry, have more, a lot more. So rather than just one to 1.6, we have one to 1.9, one to 2.8. And then the other thing is the measurement system in biodeametry. So at the end of the day, no matter what we do, we're looking for the centering effect. So we don't just give specific laws and shapes.

We do teach how to design with by geometry. We do give proportions, but we expect students or practitioners to be able to detect this quality so that they can ensure that what they're doing is actually producing that effect. So we expect them to be able to detect the effect on the human body whenever they're creating a by geometry design.

Scott Britton (46:36.037)

What do you, what's next for biogeometry? Like what's the next inflection point or frontier that you guys are excited about as for this as a field?

Doreya Karim (46:48.974)

So to be honest, I mean, I think at this point, biogeometry has surpassed what we initially, I mean, I'm talking for my father, but it's surpassed the initial goal and that happened because of our community. So I do think that a big part of it is still continuing to work on teaching on the knowledge of biogeometry and then partnering up. have some really great

partnerships and people that we're working with to bring biogeometry into the built environment, to bring biogeometry into food production, to bring biogeometry into production of, we have partners now as well in cosmetics. So as far as I think what we're really excited about, of course it's always going to be

creating by geometry communities. mean, that's hopefully where the end goal is, but I think we're also really excited about our community and all the people who want to work with us because that's how we can bring by geometry into all the different fields.

Scott Britton (48:03.353)

Yeah, well, I think, you know, it's, it's, it starts with awareness. And it's kind of like, in my example, I heard about you guys on a podcast, I got a home kid, I got some of the other stuff, I got a pendant and cell phone, she bio signature. And, and, you know, now we're talking, right? And then maybe some people will listen to this and do the same thing. And yeah, that's just kind of a gradual awareness build. And I think

maybe to close here, if people are excited to, okay, I buy into this, I'm interested. You what are the first steps they can take and where can they do that?

Doreya Karim (48:40.002)

I mean, I'd say definitely if you're interested in learning more, I would say there's some books out there. So there's Back to the Future for Mankind, the Biosignatures book, Hidden Reality. those are, I mean, they're on Amazon. We also have our website and our website actually has a great resource to show more of the research that I'm talking about to give you an intro to the science as well as lead you to some of the products that we've been mentioning.

Scott Britton (49:09.871)

awesome. Well, we'll make sure to link those out. And I just want to say thank you so much for all the work that you're doing. It's really, it's really amazing and exciting. And I'm continued. I'm excited to continue to follow along and experiment with a lot of the products and things that you guys offer myself and I encourage people out there if they're curious about it to do the same.

Doreya Karim (49:32.406)

Thank you. Thank you for your time.

Scott Britton (49:35.617)

Awesome. Well, thanks everybody for listening and we'll see you on the next episode.