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Do you really have to choose between money and spirituality? (Danny Morel)
This guest doesn't think so
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“There is no both. There is no spirituality and money. All is one. And when you get that, the money is just a byproduct of how you're living.” (03:45 in this cast)
Danny Morel is a spiritual teacher, entrepreneur, and former real estate titan who built a billion-dollar business before dedicating his life to helping others merge spiritual awakening with worldly success. He's also the creator of The Higher Self podcast, and leads Awaken, a 3-day immersive experience helping people heal emotional wounds.
In this conversation we talked about what it actually takes to have it all. The money, the love, the health, and the peace. Danny doesn't sugarcoat anything and is living proof you can have it all. This conversation challenges everything society has programmed us to believe, especially around religion, worthiness, and the false separation between spiritual growth and material abundance.
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This episode is great for:
Entrepreneurs who feel they have to choose between spiritual growth and building wealth
Anyone caught in the achievement trap and constantly chasing external validation
People who've had spiritual awakenings but struggle to integrate them into real life
Those ready to confront the uncomfortable truth about why they're really doing what they're doing
Ideas that really stuck out to me:
Using the word "both" reveals you're operating from separation consciousness. The moment you think of spirituality AND money as two separate things you've already lost. Money is simply energy expressing in physical form. Your bank account is a direct reflection of your internal state the same way your body reflects how you treat it. When you're aligned with source energy, abundance in ALL forms becomes natural.
The one question that reveals what's actually driving you: "Why am I really doing what I'm doing?" Before his awakening, Danny's honest answer was painful. He needed validation, admiration, and power to compensate for the scared little boy who never received love as a child. Most entrepreneurs are building businesses to prove they're worthy rather than to genuinely serve. Until you confront what's actually driving you, external achievement will never fill the internal void. This is why so many successful people still feel empty.
Hold off on coaching anyone until you have mastery in finances, relationships, and health. Danny eliminates about 90% of life coaches with this standard. You have no business guiding others if your own life is a mess in these fundamental areas. Too many people use helping others as a sophisticated way to avoid their own shadow work. Real mastery means you can demonstrate wisdom in how you actually live not just what you teach.
Understanding frequency is the key to having it all. When you raise yours, things MUST fall away. Danny announced mid-event that he was done teaching real estate and 80% of his clients left that day. Instead of panicking, he recognized this as perfect. Those clients had to leave because they no longer matched his new frequency. Within 60 days, he replaced every client with people aligned with his authentic path. Everything that leaves is creating space for what's coming. It's how energy works.
If losing clients or a relationship triggers you, you have an unresolved relationship with death and impermanence. Every ending is a death and rebirth. When you resist life's natural cycles you create suffering. This understanding allowed him to watch his entire business model dissolve without fear.
A parent wound is often blocking everything you want. When the love you needed in childhood wasn't available, a wound formed that created the unconscious belief that love equals pain. This wound filters every business decision, relationship, and financial outcome in your life. Forgiveness isn't about condoning what happened. It's about releasing the energy you're using to maintain resentment so it becomes available for creation.
You're either a creator or a victim. There's no neutral zone. Using David Hawkins' Map of Consciousness, everything below courage is victim energy and everything above is creator consciousness. Waiting for permission? Victim energy. Blaming circumstances? Victim energy. Making excuses? Victim energy. Creator consciousness means taking full responsibility for your reality as a reflection of your internal state. This shift from "why is this happening to me?" to "why is this happening for me?" changes everything.
The acceptance-release-replace practice transforms your default state from resistance to trust. When something triggers you, notice the resistance. Feel where that energy lives in your body. Accept it without judgment. Let it move through you. Then consciously replace it with trust that everything is happening for your evolution. Do this 50 times a day if needed. Over time your nervous system rewires. Peace, trust, and acceptance become your default instead of control and fear. That's when money flows naturally.
The spiritual path is about becoming no one. Danny went from being militantly focused on becoming spiritually enlightened to realizing that obsession was just another ego game. The real journey is about dissolving the doer. The one who thinks more effort will create permanent realization. It's about recognizing that who you think you are is just a collection of experiences and ideas not the truth of what you are.
What struck me most about this conversation was Danny's absolute certainty about the path he's walking. There's no hedging, no spiritual bypassing and no trying to please everyone.
This is what happens when you stop performing and start being. When you're no longer dependent on external validation, you can speak truth without needing anyone to agree with you. Danny embodies this in a way that's both inspiring and challenging to witness.
The real revolution isn't choosing between money and spirituality. It's recognizing that the separation was always an illusion. When you heal the fragmentation within yourself, your entire life becomes unfragmented. The money flows as a natural expression of your service. The relationships deepen as a reflection of your capacity to love. The health improves as your energy clears.
But getting there requires a level of courage and commitment that most people aren't willing to make. It means facing your deepest fears, your most painful wounds, and the parts of yourself you've spent a lifetime avoiding.
This conversation reminded me why I love this podcast. We need more people willing to speak uncomfortable truths. More leaders who've actually walked the path instead of just reading about it.
If you want to help others prove to yourself first that you can navigate the fundamental challenges of human existence with grace, wisdom, and genuine mastery.
Hope you enjoy this conversation!
- Scott
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Episode Transcript
Show Notes
00:00 - The Intersection of Spirituality and Success
04:24 - The Journey of Self-Discovery
10:20 - Mastery Before Coaching
17:49 - Facing Fears and Embracing Love
24:23 - The Power of Forgiveness
31:36 - Authenticity and Truth
37:55 - The Role of Energy in Relationships
44:20 - Creating from a Place of Love
52:08 - Surrendering to Authenticity
59:22 - The Cosmic Connection of Family
01:02:23 - Conclusion and Call to Action